Sovereignty
Interview with Uncle Dennis Walker at the Aboriginal Tent Embassy, Canberra,
28 August 2015.
Interviewed by Alice Haines
Forward
In this transcript Lore Man Bejam Kunmunara Jalo Noonuccal Kabool (Dennis Walker) Lays
down the Original Custodial laws of Australia (Chukapa) and officially declares the
Australian government illegitimate under the Pacific Islanders Protection Acts of 1872,
1875 and the amendments of 1883.
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My given name is Bejam Kunmunara Jalo Noonuccal Kabool , Son of Oodgeroo of the tribe
Noonuccal , Custodian of the land Minjerribah 'Moongalba’, via Goompi, Minjerribah,
Quandamooka, 4183. That is my real but my legal fiction name is Dennis Bruce Walker.
Q What I wanted to ask you: what is sovereignty?
DW. What is sovereignty at international Law? You must have a people a people a government
and a territory. We have that because we know who we are and where we go to in terms of
our territory. And our territories tell us who we are.
Q What could you say to our mob out there in regards to the Recognize campaign and
recognition of Original Australians in the Australian constitution? Could you explain what
kind of reservations you would have in regards to us being recognized on the constitution?
Well, in terms of constitutional change, the constitution of Australia comes under section
9 of the Australia Act in the British parliament, so in terms of making a change it is fraught
with difficulties. In terms of Blackfella being recognized by such a constitution fraught
with all the imperfections that an invading colonial society manifests including theft,
murder and genocide then you're dealing with a pretty weird animal in terms of the
Australian constitution and it flies in the face of existing legislation of the Pacific
Islanders protection acts of 1872, 1875 and the amendments of 1883 and these legislatures
define clearly that it was this place that they were talking about and that in fact that in this
legislature, it says quite clearly that this (Australia) is the place we're talking about.
It also states that the Queen at the time, Victoria, had no intention of placing her
sovereignty or domain here and it was to remain the sovereignty and domain of the various
tribes and their elders and chiefs and rulers thereof.
This legislation has been buried until about 7 years ago when I understand Mark
McMurtree <<(sp?)>> went into the bowels of the records of the Victorian parliament and
archives and dug out 'the Kings Seal' which related to the Original South Australian's
sovereignty and domain over their own country and emphasized in that letters patent from
King William IV.
That document has also been buried and Mark McMurtree as well as the Pacific Islanders
protection act of 1872 and 1875 and Michael Anderson found the '83 legislatures in the UK
parliament. He went over to the UK Parliament and dug down there and the most important
being that of the '83 legislature which says quite clearly ;
(Uncle Dennis reads the Pacific Islanders protection act '83 amendments version)
Section 7. of the Pacific Island Protection Act 1875
(as amended by the Statute Law Revision Act, 1898) <check the dates here>
“Saving of Rights of Tribes. - Nothing herein or in any such Order in Council contained
shall extend or be construed to extend to invest Her Majesty, her heirs or successors
(which makes it Crown law now ) with any claim or title whatsoever to dominion or
sovereignty over any such islands or places as aforesaid, or to derogate from the rights of
the tribes or the people inhabiting such islands or places, or of chiefs or rulers thereof, to
such sovereignty or dominion, and a copy of every such Order in Council shall be laid
before each House of Parliament within thirty days after the issue thereof, unless
Parliament shall not then be in session, in which case copy shall be laid before each House
of Parliament within thirty days after the commencement of the next ensuing session”
Dennis Walker : What I'm saying is that these legislatures have obviously been buried and
hidden from us, as well as the Letters Patent of King William IV guaranteeing sovereignty
of the South Australian Sovereign Tribal Origine People.
Q So what is the process of how you are asserting sovereignty?
What needs to happen at their law is that there is a presumption by them that they do have
sovereignty and dominion over us, and they do that by way of the law of the sea.
Thus you've got town-ships, citizen-ships. These are are all vessels. The courthouse itself
is a vessel where you get your birth (*berth) certificate and in terms of that certificate they
enslave the population of this country by saying that by way of that birth certificate you
are bound to the statutes of the country of whatever laws they want to make so you are
subject to those laws by way of your birth certificate.
Now at law, you are the owner of that constructive trust created by your birth certificate.
You are the administrator and executor of that constructive trust and you can repute their
hold over you by statute by revealing the fact that you know that this is a legal fiction and
a constructive trust of which you are the administrator and executor and you can forbid
them to use that in any way shape or form and if they do then they will be acting
unlawfully and that because they act unlawfully that then becomes a transaction of a
security interest.
In my proclamation of sovereignty I make a point that I will not in any way resist but I will
comply to their instructions even though they are unlawful but I do so under protest and
duress so that anything I sign or that they make me do is against my free will and therefore
they are liable, given that they are breaking the law, for costs and in terms of those costs.
I have a schedule of fees and a bill of costs after a notice of want of response has been
issued and they will be liable for those costs.
SELF DEFENSE NOTICE
I am, Bejam Kunmunara Noonuccal Kabool, son of Oodgeroo of the tribe Noonuccal
Custodian of the land Minjerribah, a Sovereign Tribal Origine Person. My Passport is
enclosed.
I am the administrator and executor of the constructive trust/corporation known as DENNIS
BRUCE WALKER, Registration number 1946/21515. As the administrator and executor of
the constructive trust represented by my birth certificate which I attach, Im advising you
that I do not give permission for you to use DENNIS BRUCE WALKER in any manner, and
you will be liable for any use of DENNIS BRUCE WALKER in any manner, and you will be
liable for any use of DENNIS BRUCE WALKER by you, for which you do not have any
permission.
It is my understanding that as a Sovereign Tribal Origine Person I do not stand under your
law and that according to the legislations enclosed; the Act of Settlement 1701, and the
Pacific Islanders Protection Acts 1872, 1875 & 1883 you act unlawfully.
As such, any actions by the Crown to in any way, NOT RESPECT and Enforce my
sovereignty and dominion is an UNLAWFUL ACT on me and my family, and we will only
comply under protest and duress for which you will be held liable as this will become a
transaction of a security interest and that creates a liability. There will be a writ with a
schedule of fees resulting in a bill of costs.
Any disputation at law with me or my family must lie sine die until these sovereignty and
dominion matters are properly settled by way of an informed consent”
I've signed this here Bejam and Denis Walker and that's the stamp that my mother had made
when she was alive: “Oodgeroo of the tribe Noonuccal custodian of the land Minjerribah.
And I signed it Bejam. That's my sovereignty seal.
What I am saying is they do act unlawfully and I can prove it.
I'm saying that they have a 'want of jurisdiction' because they are are not the sovereign
owners of this country.
They are de facto , and therefore illegitimate by way of the Queen's sovereignty. The
Queen's sovereignty says that it is our sovereignty and our domain. (The Original People of
Australia). Crown law says this is so and there has been nothing done or said to change that
fact.
What we are being governed by is a de facto government acting as de jeure. Saying that
they do have jurisdiction when in fact they don't. The Crown law clearly shows that it is
our sovereignty and our dominion.
They have hidden those laws away for a long time and a lot of magistrates are very
confused about the whole matter. But sooner or later, one of those magistrates is going to
have to recognize the fact that they are de facto and that to act in a de jeure way they must
treaty in with the sovereign owners of this domain and until they do, they are a de facto
and therefore illegitimate government who have no sovereignty or domain over it
whatsoever they are simply a colony of England.
The colony of Australia is section 9 of the Australia Act of the British Parliament and it is
very difficult to change that unless you have all the dominions agreeing, which takes in
Canada, New Zealand, a whole heap of commonwealth countries that come under that
Queen's Law and by way of the 1872, 75 and 83 legislations (Pacific Islanders Protection
Act) saying that it's“heirs and successors”, that makes it Crown Law now.
So, what they are calling Crown land, that's a de facto and illegitimate presumption that we
must rebut. Unless you rebut that presumption, that presumption stands at law. At every
step of the way when you are dealing with Crown offices you rebut their presumption of
having any sovereignty or dominion over you and you do that simply by saying “I am a
Sovereign Tribal Origine Person and by law you have no jurisdiction over me. Until you do
that the presumption stands.
Q: What are the implications of the Australian government being illegitimate? What does
that mean in the context of our lives ?
Well it has very serious implications in terms of Australia's standing in the world. Given
that they are a de facto government which is illegitimate because it hasn't got the
sovereignty or dominion on which they claim, it resides with us, (the Sovereign Tribal
Original People) then they have difficulty entering into any treaty or trade arrangements
with other countries.
So the Embassy and other places are meeting and working out this whole sovereignty,
dominion area. What I see that should arise out of that national cohesion on sovereignty
and domain is that until the Australian government does do treaty on the basis of a
controlling interest by way of 51% Sovereign Tribal Originie Peoples and 49% for the
Australian colony which is the terms I offered to the Governor General some time back,
then all trade should stop. There should be an economic embargo on the illegitimate state
of Australia which is a colony and has no jurisdiction to do anything in terms of their
sovereignty and their domain because it's not theirs, it's ours and until they do do treaty
and get the de jeure they require then the world should boycott Australia economically.
Trade should stop with Australia until they act lawfully.
What would be in the treaty and what would be the implications of having the treaty, let's
say it did happen?
What I've said to the Governor General is that he needs to understand that they went the
way of Cain and we went the way of Abel.
Now by way of treaty what I'm saying is that in order to fulfill God's law they have to come
out of their property law of Cain which gives the perception of other so that you can
commit genocide and change from that property law and come into our custodial law so we
can look after people and country properly by way of our four estates. The four estates of
the invader and occupier and genocider are Queen, Parliament, Judiciary and the Media is
the fourth of state. Our estates are elders, men's business, women's business, law, initiation
and bloodline back to country as defined roughly on this Tindale map.
What the Tindale map can't show is the domains and ranges and the layered titles involved
in that process. That's a vague blueprint that blackfella can draw on, and white fella too,
but work back into those regional governances and you have policeman in and policeman
out and the policeman is there to look after you and keep the peace. Not to force you to to
obey what can only be called a cargo cult established under Admiralty Law (and I'm
speaking of the so called Australian government here). It is simply a cargo cult established
under Admiralty Law, the law of the sea, in order to make a lot of money at the expense of
our sovereignty and domain.
They're robbing us blind. They're locking us up. Our children's incarceration rates are in
Brisbane 51% jumping to 74%, in the Northern Territory 90% in Western Australia 90% in
New South Wales 51% and I think I it's about the same in Victoria. I'm not sure about the
other two states, South Australia and Tasmania but they are very high rates of
incarceration of our children which deny them their people, their land and their culture and
it's genocidal and they're genociders and because they are genociding us I call on urgent
action to be taken to economically boycott the state of Australia or any corporation that
operates under it's auspices because it is illegitimate, because it is a de facto and it has no
sovereignty or domain.
Q: What would you say to the fella on the street who's right at the start of the journey,
what advice would you give them and how would they get into all this at the start?
Listen. It's pretty simple. Listen and learn. That's how Blackfellas do it. I don't know how
youse do it. It's not complicated. The devils world has make everything very complicated
with his property law. Deviates.
Q: You've been involved for such a long time, what's the difference today than back in the
seventies is there much change?
It's got worse. Back in the day, back 30, 40 years ago I remember quite clearly that when I
gave public speeches, and I gave a lot of them, at demos and at University campuses. We
used to travel around lecturing, one of the things that used to bug me to the max was the
fact that there was 27% of youth incarcerated back then. It's now jumped up to over 50% in
most places and up to 90% in the Northern territory and Western Australia and it's a crime
against humanity and no one's talking about it no one says anything about it but it's a
shocking disgrace and it's genocide and it's got to stop. And this is the way to stop it: it's
our sovereignty and our domain, you've got to rebut their presumptions that it is theirs and
claim it as yours and tell them they have a want of jurisdiction and they must sine die the
matter until they fix it by way of treaty.
Q: Is there any difference in what's happening in Australia to the rest of the world, are we
in a unique position here for any reason?
Well the Blackfella is unique because he kept the garden as God gave it. I say this is the
garden of Eden. It works out just about right and if you see us as going the way of Abel in
the garden of Eden and kept the garden as God gave it, in terms of Cain he resides in a land
of Nod East of Eden that makes it the United states of America from where we sit. The
Land of Nod. Biblical. Read your bible (laughs).
Q: would you, just for the purposes of clarity for talking to the person on the street, who's
just at the beginning, how would you introduce the topic of sovereignty ?
In terms of sovereignty, first, please show me the document that transfers the sovereignty
that transfers the sovereignty from us to them. Where is the document? There is no
document. It is ours.
Q: So sovereignty was never ceded by the (ab)Original people, or the original people of this
country to the white invader if you will, the British invaders, so what are the implications
of that? If the government is illegitimate, what does that mean for the (ab)Original people
of Australia in terms of the law and self determination?
Well I would liken it to someone walking into your house and telling you you are now going
to live in the garage. It's pretty simple isn't it.
Q: And, my finishing question I guess is how can black people and white people in
Australia work together to get a better way?
Well most certainly not by way of your property law and the institutions of your monarch
who isn't really your monarch, a judiciary that doesn't obey the law and a media that will
print any lie you want to tell them.
Instead, you need to come out of that property law into the custodial laws of elders: Men's
business, women's business, law and initiation, bloodline back to territory as enunciated on
that map
(Uncle Dennis points to the Tindale map behind him again)
and learn how we do it and you learn by listening. That's all you have to do. Listen and
you'll be told. Pretty basic, pretty simple. I work on the K.I.S.S. principle. Keep it simple
stupid.
What about signing a treaty?
People can treaty in with me. What I do with my treaties is that corporations treaty in with
me, on the basis of, as a Sovereign Tribal Origine Person I get 51% of their corporation and
they get 49% if they're going to operate on my country.
In terms of individuals, which I've done many with is that they commit to give me 10% of
their first roots to have God's will done here and they do that usually by helping out at the
embassy, giving us this beautiful tent which makes it very comfortable in this cold wet
weather. It's a godsend. That sort of thing is how I work my treaty and what I say is that I
am going to keep treatying in people on that basis and that if every Blackfella in this
country did that and we had a hundred each I reckon we could take over the country and go
from property law to custodial law and that is the only hope for the planet.
See Blackfella was the last one to get hit by the colonial devils and we still got that land
and we still got that law, that Chukapa is still there, whereas Europe has pretty much lost it
because they turned it into those Aristocracy estates and used it for sheep instead of
people, to make money. But they need to get back to this if they're gonna save the planet.
Without going to custodial law and coming out of property law you're not going to realize
the oneness in the spirit necessary to save the planet and Blackfella's got the best example
of how to do that with their institutions. Elders, men's business, women's business, law and
initiations that's the Chukapa. Bloodlines back to territory and that's the blueprint
(points behind him to the Tindale map again)
But it doesn't take into account domain and rage and where layered titles come in and you
have policeman in and policeman out and the policeman's there to keep the peace and help
you not to enforce any bloody laws. Different thing, police for Blackfellas. They're peace
people. Keep the peace.
Q. You give people templates for legal work and such?
Yes, and get on and do treaties. And I'm setting the benchmark as far as corporations: 51%
Sovereign Tribal Origine People and 49% the corporation whatever it is be it the Colony of
Australia or IBM or Rio Tonto or whatever. That's what I advocate. And they must come
out of their property law and into our custodial law or they're gonna wreck the planet over
fights and wars over their property laws. If you go to custodial law you don't need war
anymore.
Can you imagine the budget savings on not having war anymore? We would have
heaven on Earth in a minute . And that's what we're on about. Bringing heaven to Earth. We
kept the garden as God gave it by our custodial way of law. We're the ones who kept it most
faithfully because we were the last ones to get hit. So we were able to hold onto more. You
see it would be hard to do that in the United States it would be hard to do that in England.
Yeah, a lot of people from a lot of places in remote areas in Australia and overseas are
linking in. Sovereign Tribal Originie Peoples is a universal state of being that the devil
with his property law has been confusing you about and getting you to go to war about. All
wars are the work of the devil since Egyptian times. The Illuminati. There's DVDs we've
left here that shows the devil, the family bloodlines that worship him and how they rule the
world by enslaving you by way of your birth certificate through their statute law which is
the law of the sea.
We own the law of the land, the common law and that is by definition an English law it is particular parts of the kingdom that have the unwritten or spoken customs and codes. That is the common law of he kingdom of which Australia is a colony, not a sovereign. Their sovereignty belongs back at the Queen. Paint 'em black and send 'em back.
And I say we govern we've got to begin to govern ourselves. And There's men's business,
women's business going on all the way back all throughout that territory (points to the
Tindale map)
Some one said “the wilderness”, they'd come in here and save “the wilderness” and I
said it's not the bloody wilderness, mate It's someone's home. It's not the wilderness,
someone lives there it's their home. That's the white mindset of Cain - it's wilderness. It
was terra nullius for 200 years. And they still couldn't exterminate us but they're still
trying. The youth incarceration rate is evidence of that. It's unspeakable. But we fight on.
And check it all out, cos you can fight back you don't have to be a slave.
Q; And what's your next move in that regard?
Well I'm fighting a blue for someone down here and I'm fighting another couple of blues up
at Lismore. It's in the Canberra court's here. And I've got writs out on the chief magistrate
and another magistrate. Because they are all acting unlawfully on our sovereignty and our
domain and they're causing all sorts of trouble.
Q; And what's the outcome that you hoping to have with that case?
That the matter be ruled sine die and that literally means 'for another day' when they have
got de jeure rather than de facto, (legitimate rather than illegitimate), made legitimate by
with treaty with us as the sovereign owners of our domains as evidenced there.
(points to the Tindale map again)
There's copies of the transcripts of the court case that we left here and if you take these
actions then it does throw them into a state of confusion because they then have to deal
with you as an equal at law and they lose their control over you and they lose witness and
they lose paperwork and they lose the forget about the charges on they and they forget
what they were charging you with.
www.sovereignembassy.com
'New Way Dreaming', Aunty Nellie Patterson (born 1932)
Anangu, Pitjanjarra, Yungkjanjarra (APY) Lands, South Australia
